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Bigwater Fishing with Ross Robertson
Bigwater Fishing with Ross Robertson

Episode 51 · 2 months ago

Country Steve Answers Viewer Questions - Bigwater Fishing Podcast #51 with Ross Robertson

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Country Steve is back and we're answering viewers questions about walleye fishing on Lake Erie and the Detroit River, equipment, tactics and more.. Believe it or not Steve is fantastic angler and has his own opinions about what works to land the biggest walleye. Capt. Ross Robertson has made his complete living chasing walleye as a full time professional angler for more than 20 years. Through the years he has worn many hats including time as a fishing guide, boat salesman, TV host, outdoor writer, product designer, tournament fisherman, speaker, radio host and podcaster to name a few. Ross fishes ice-out to ice-up on the Great Lakes. He spends the majority of the year walleye fishing on Lake Erie’s Western and Central basins. Check out more from Bigwater Fishing https://www.facebook.com/BigwaterFish... https://www.instagram.com/bigwaterfis... http://bigwaterfishing.com/

M h. Welcome back to the Big Water Podcast. If you've watched any of our stuff, hopefully you've been entertained a little bit. Hopefully you've been educated a little bit. This is gonna be a dumpster fire with a little bit of both of those things, because we have what we're calling producer Dude. He is now known as Slow Alex Trebek because we're going to answer your questions with the country Steve, who was a little bit more of an egomaniac now that you guys are all recognizing him, but he's actually he took some time, which we're very grateful because he's getting ready fisher tournament and so he is in between sleeping and fishing basically. But producer Dude, or as we should call him now, slow Alex what you called me bit flowing man? What did I call you anyhow? I mean slow Alix Trebek because I'm in fairness, like Alex Trebek was literally like a genius like as IQ was crazy high. It was high enough that you know it was it was smarter than your test, was it though? Or did he just have the answers? Well, you have the answers to which we That's the thing with this what we're about to do. There are no answers. We have answers, whether we're gonna make them up, but and all seriously, you guys have asked questions on different platforms, whether it's been Facebook, Instagram, YouTube, or emailing them in. I don't know where Alex Trebek slow Alex Trebek has gotten all these from, but he's got them. So we're gonna run through. We're gonna give you a real deal. And some of you guys, I'm just gonna tell you, in all seriousness, we love the feedback. Ask this is from some place. Also, I was listening to another podcast because a lot of people are the same thing. Ask good questions, get good answers. Some of these are just like the ridiculous which producer dude, I mean, you gotta let me and Steve have a little fun with some of them. But in all seriousness, like some of them are just so crazy and not specific or just open ended that it's almost pointless. So we want to participate with you guys, and we appreciate the feedback, but help me help you. You know what I'm saying. Oh yeah, yeah, And doesn't stand for a record when it comes to the Alex tra back, right, No, it does not, you know, alright, alright, slow Alex, what do we do? Right? What are the people talking about? So log dog fishing wants to know what are some of the ways that the big walle i act differently, uh, compared to the average walleye. And do you find them more in isolated schools among other big fish or are they mixed in with regular sized school fish in the school Very subjective country, Steve, what do you think? I think that and I ran into it this year that the bigger fish have are in the areas of the smaller fish, but they're on the outer part of the smaller fish, especially in at Saginaw Bay, especially on Lake St. Clair, which has been a miserable fishes last week. But all the bigger fish, you know, you think they would all be in the weeds, but they're laying outside the weeds, outside of the smaller fish. Kind of odd. I think, you know, there there's there's no good answer for this, but I think the handful of things you can do to put the odds in your favor are getting away from people. And I think that's kind of what you mean, you know, like that first pass through or early in the morning, you know, late in the evening when there's not maybe as many people out there getting to the edge of packs if you need to fish them, like where we do on area where just piles of boats. Um. Sometimes it's you know, just fishing a little bit deeper. A lot of those big fish either, you know, when the feeds really on maybe are higher than where you're at. UM. But I think that, I think, to me the biggest thing, and I know country is going to agree with this. If you're fishing for a fall brawl winner, if you're fishing for a ten pound plus fish, you're gonna have to do something different generally than you are if you're gonna catch two, four, three, four five pounders depending on where you live. And most people aren't willing to quit catching fish to get that big fish, because you're not going to catch thirty fish a day if you're targeting trophies, even on a place likely Lake Erie most of the time, I agree, yeah, and most people aren't willing to do that. And I...

...get it because people want to catch like I have that. Yeah, Tom, not tournaments, but with with guide clients, they go, hey, I want to book you for a for a trophy trip, and so we're gonna go to a different area. I'm gonna set up with different things, and after twenty minutes and not catching one, they're like, all right, let's just let's just let's just catch some meters. And it's kind of like that deer hunting guy that's puts a food plot in you guys that are hunters, you know, does all this stuff, got the scent free everything, and then he smokes a dough in his best tree stand. You know, ten minutes into the season. It's the same thing. Those stuff different, right, Well, the biggest thing I've learned tournament fishing. Over the whole periods, everybody's catching fish. Oh they're the greatest fisherman pre fishing. And you know a guy named Bob. We won't say any last names that it was a great the greatest pre fisherman that ever was. My thing is I eliminate water. So I might go two days and catch fight fish, but I know the fish aren't there. And the only way to learn, and you know it is don't make the water prefish hard. So again you gotta go outside the box and then figure it out. Producer dude for people that are watching this on YouTube. I know Country Steve probably has a iPad or something on his lap, but when he was bouncing around, because he was obviously into this conversation, he looked like a bobblehead doll. And I was just thinking, if we had a country bubblehead doll, we might make a revenue that we wouldn't have to go fishing or do videos anymore. Probably I was noticing that too. It's like every time we talked, because you must he must be And I wasn't going to correct him or anything because it's just what he does because it's because he up buddy. But he definitely every time he talks, it's bouncing. So it's like he's got it on his lap and he's bouncing a few things different and so do you you know? I had somebody email me just a couple of days ago in the same thing and I said, there's like we can't catch any fish. We know they're there and this and that. I said, do you ever us to the night And they're like no, And I'm like, no traffic, no people, no pressure. You know, you've got to get away from doing what the jones there right, keep us going. Alex slow out. Yeah, I'm gonna cut Steve off there. Um. Next question is from the Cruises Adventures. Uh, you have said you like to go slow. What are your average speeds for each season with your normally used baits for each season? So if you're using you know, if you're using the cranks in the midsummer or doing dip season late summer, you know kind of what are the speeds? Is that a specific enough questions? I'm gonna start this coming off because I gotta I'm gonna go a different way than I think Country is gonna go if I know him. The thing that you have to realize if you're fishing in a river, a reservoir and the Great Lakes is current is there, whether you want to understand it or not. So when you're going one point five, that doesn't mean your lures going one point five. Or if you're going east to west and then you go um west to east or whatever, it is, the opposite direction, your lure is not doing the same thing. There's a lot of little tricks and things that I use for that visually, but when it comes down to it, you have to use a fish hawk because what you think your speed over ground is and what you're doing is two different things. I mean, I've been on the Detroit River where I'm blowing up. I'm blowing up the river because of wind and it does a lot of things there with a return flow. Um, you guys that have seen Marina's basically empty out and then you know that the current on the bottom is going the opposite way. I think it's called the site. So I've pronounced that properly. So that's kind of the detailed answer to this. I know you want a simple answer, but what if I was to give you a number like one point to just understand that one point to going east and west is not the same. Um, But generally you just need to go because of that, Colonel. Also, what's gonna turn your blades with a spinner on a crank bait? What's gonna wobble so on the left and the right side of the boat. That may be different. And I've caught fish in the summertime going one mile and almost eighty degree you know water, And then...

I've me and actually be in country. We filmed the show way back where we are in the wintertime. It was like January. We were going like two mile, like haul and ass um you know in water those like thirty four degrees. And we only knew that because we did a hard turn to avoid something on the water or whatever some whatever it was, and there was a giant telephone hall. Yes, exactly what it was. I wouldn't have pulled that out, That's exactly what it was. And we made a hard turn, and so we did it again, and it was one of those things where you know, those lazy s patterns or checking your speed. I know a lot of you guys want these textbook answers of in the spring, I do one point two. In the summer, I do this. Forget that, and you're gonna be a lot better fishing. And pay attention to the day to day because even when I fish every day, you know, six seven days in a week in a row. Long story short, what I do on Monday and what I do on Tuesday bay successful is often very different. I would say, you know, rule of thumb springing, fall a little slower, summer a little faster, But you have to present it in the speed that they want to eat at at that particular time. So going to have to adjust your speeds and when you start catching more fish at whatever speed that is that speed you want to go, and you know that. I know we kind of really dug in deep, but that's why we got me in Country here an ideal speed, you know, like, uh, certain baits work better, like generally speaking, I think not that you can't catch them going fast. A husky jerk catches more fish going slower by the neutral buoyancy that that bait has. Other baits a hot tiddled wiggle work that things never drink flectormentals work better at slower speeds because I got a big wobble, so I can see that. Well, we catch them going a little faster in those two. But just know that everybody of water and the type of baitness is going to have a different preference. So slow, Alex, what do we got? Well? Did did Country's team just transform or teleport into a new location? Is that what happened? He did? He said that he feels like he needs to have happiness, and happiness is in the homemade Yeah, my wife made homemade stuff. Happiness is homemade. And I'm gonna wait for him to quit moving and look at the little sailboats back there. If you guys were watching, if you're watching this on Spotify or something. That's great. We appreciate you tuning in, but if you're not watching this on YouTube, you're missing out because the Mrs Country Steve coming in the sailboats. The happiness is homemade like it's it's it's a real professional show, is what you're saying. Right? No, no, no, my Prouser left me. He left me for good. I was like, hello, hello, nine one, my producer is dead and a floor all right? Um g I Weaver uh says has a two, has two questions and will give them two questions. They're quick questions. Um, I guess talking to Ross, Um, will you ever compete in local lake erie tournaments again? Well, the guys sitting right next to me over here is has been dragging me, beating me over Uh. I love I love competition, and uh I definitely yes, I probably I probably will, but it's gonna have to be a while because just the state of things going on in my business and time and everything. Um, but I think there's a father rock count No, because I don't think that counts. So yeah, eventually, I mean Country, I mean you already know you're gonna drag me in. You try every day, what are you doing the rock next year? Uh? And then they also wants to know for both of you, I guess what's your favorite fitch to catch besides Wally? I think people are gonna be surprised for Country's answered. I would go with Redfish Um in Louisiana. But I...

...also want to get my elusive triple Tale and I've got a lot of stuff that I want to go after. We were me and were just about the triple Tale thing. That's a interesting fish. Yeah, it's casting. It's mine is easy, and that's why I've probably done as many TV shows for small Mouth Bass as I have for Walleyes, mainly because it made me go and set the time aside to go do it. Matter of fact, me and producer Dude, we shot a lot of small math shows, didn't we early. I hate them and I want to gut them at this point in time in my life. Well yeah, with what you're doing right now. But that's a whole different deal. Yeah, just thirty forty of them a day, and crank baits is not any fun when you're trolling so ross. I want to stop the podcast for a second. I know we'll get back to the guests. In a minute, I saw you looking at UF I was researching get I was researching. Oh my god, you're you're doing your job. Oh my god, I'm doing my job. And I was on something like called like powder puff, which I don't know why you're on powder puff, but I saw your face on something called powder puff or something like hook man powder hook dot com. Okay, well what is that? Well, as you kind of found out, we're cheating on a little bit. Normally, the fellow listeners are a big water know that you have to tease me with ice cream to get a fishing report, because I quite frankly hate them. But we are doing an extensive fishing report, amongst other things with powder hook dot com. And they've got a bunch of things across the Instagram and Facebook and all that good stuff too, But we're doing a detailed fishing report. They're talking about really detailed stuff with what's going on specifically on Lake Erie here on the Western and Central Basins and even a few times there in the Eastern Basin in the summer now through May of three. So we're gonna be doing lots of stuff, and you've already seen some of it because you caught me red handed. But we've got to purchase, you know, information on we're talking about player boards. We've got all kinds of different information. But with myself and then some other lake Eri studs that basically are teaching how to catch more walleyes, what's going on currently? And I mean powder hook powder hook dot com. It's it's a one stop shop right now for lake ere info, whether it's a fishing report, videos or some you know, written articles. How to you know, select a charter captain like myself, different things to think about and talk about. So a lot of unique things there is you already know powder hook dot com that's where we go catching Release seventies seven. Uh wants to know have you ever fished the Bay of Quinte or do you plan to? Not only have I not only have I fished, I fished with the guy in my man country right here. I have probably got a hundred I would say nine ten days on Big Quinny or Lake Ontario. I have a third of that. I would say, yeah, I've got it, but it's been it's been a lot of time since we've been there. I went on almost every trip that you were on. Yeah, I know, that, but it's not quite a bit of time there. It's a neat place. I think that honestly about we started going there in two thousand five men you three, yeah, four. I thought on most of those trips that you went that you have the hundred days on probably a hundred of them are with my boats. The days are not with me vote, but with my boat. That was the fact I actually made his airborne on the Bay of Quinny when he wasn't even there. Um, multiple times I had the coast Guard follow me. It was a good deal. But no, in all, seriously, speake Quinny. We we shot shows back there and kind of, honestly, I want to take credit for breaking some of the tactics that the guys that ended up using, and we kind of showed the locals Me and Country Show look fee the local guys that how to how to get her done? Is that fair? Yeah? I'm not allowed back at one. He got banned, Slow Alexcent he got banned.

Listened to the Country Street podcast about this. I remember, Um, yeah, big Quinny, good place. But it's I think it's kind of coming back a little bit. Those guys eat a lot of those fish and killed them you know it's deep water, and I don't I think that they hurt that resource. They're pretty good for a while. Um, so say Country Steve has dropped the Snickers bar on your boat floor, or I have walked through a bunch of mud and then got on your boat. One of those may have actually happened. Um, you guys are gonna have to figure that out. But Jeremy Reagor is looking for a good boat floor cleaning tip. Well, first of all, it would have been my Snickers, not Country Steve's people back that the muddy shoes definitely would have been slow Alex, no doubt. There's many things that Country Steve is, but dirty is not one of them. I mean he's dirty, but not that type of dirty, not a take pen dirty. Cleaning the boat floor, I think, you know, it really depends on what you have. Like now I'm in one of my boats. I've got the you know, the decking stuff that you've you've got now, and then in my range of six two my new boat, Um, I've got that rubber floor and it's much easier to clean. Like on my model they got the little circles on there and a power washer just keeping up with it um. But I just recently heard that rubber roofing. Uh. Tom Vtileo Vick Sports Center just told me this rubber roof cleaning solution is what you need to use for those floors that have the contours and the little diamonds and things that's hard to get into using that rubber floor rubber ceiling cleaning solution. The best thing I've come across is go to the power go to the you know your car wash, Go to the power wash and you get your boat wet. Then you go through and you pre soaked. There's a button you sober and you pre soak it. You go through and do it twice, and then you come back over and clean it all off. It takes some time, but it will get everything off your boat that pretty soak. You got a lot of set though, But if you don't get that pre soak off, I'm telling you what, it'll be slicker than snot stepping on that floor. You gotta get it all off. So we'll take a little bit of time, but that will get your boat the fastest, easiest clean ever. I might be the worst one on the plan to ask me, yeah, you are the worst. Oh yeah, that is a boning and Steve always thinks your boats the mess. Well, it's funny because I was at Vicked Sports Center the other day getting subroutine service on my motors done, and they probably needed to get a shot before I getting your boat. Tommy was like he was, He was like, what happened? Well, he didn't, He couldn't even believe. I said, well, honestly, we just haven't been pulling crawlers as much as earlier. Whatever you pull crawler seven days a week, I don't care who you are. If you're doing it every day. You show me a clean boat, I'll show you somebody that hasn't caught fish. Uh, well you know me. My boat is always clean. Yeah, but you're not. You're not. You're not going every day for like weeks on end. Not to what you do. But when you know the last time you're thinking about doing, when you gotta come home and do one of these Yeah, anyhow slow, Alex, bring it home. What do we got? Uh? Show me more drinks. So that's one of those names that she loved. Sounds like a party. I want to know if you're looking for more rent of friends, and I believe we talked about this in the boat during a video with Country Steve. I believe right there and so that's what he's referring to. That's that's kind of a loaded question. What kind of friends are we talking about? This is all you I I I'm enjoying hearing this myself friends or what? Oh boy? There we go? There there, there we go? Um rent of friends? Heck? Yeah, I mean there's times I'm sure that producer do in Country want to get rid of me? I guarantee, now,...

...yeah, just about it every time I'm out there. But then I wouldn't be able to get the boat back. So I need someone exactly where we are. Starts really hard to remember. Yeah, well, you know, guys, let me have to change that code because we were just in case that's security. Uh. Philip Coman wants to know how do you use tadpole drivers? Do you use them with uh not drivers? Divers? Do you use them with planer boards? I don't use them water. I use my all the time on Sagna Bay. Yes, I use my planer boards an alternative for like a bead chain or a snap weight essentially gain. Yeah, but it's they worked really good. Uncertain. I mean, I don't use them that much. On like Erie, I've tried, but they just don't. The fish don't react to them. On Sagnaw Bay, they love them to death. I don't know what it is, um And you can, you know, dial it in dragging them and pull them a little bit faster and stuff like that. So I've got I carry I don't know. I got maybe a dozen into my boat and I've never come out of the the box. And I only care him just because if you tell me or somebody else you know that that we work with has them, and then they're like forty two back on a size one or however they I don't even know what the sizes are. Three. Yeah, I've never even put one on the water, but yeah, I use them all the time in Seconal. They love him, right, um, MX Warren, this is gonna be a good question for you guys. He's being a little snotty, he says, how snarky son? Yeah, how do you put up with the monotony of catching Wally? I've done two trips in a row and I can't handle the thought of reeling in another wet sock. Well, since since you said two trips in a row, we'll try doing a hundred in a row and you'll find out that you can't catch them all the time because Walleyes are a bit when you think it's insane, Like, Producer, do you even agree to this? When we're catching catching, catching catching, and I'm like go, go, go, and you're like hold on, and then all of a sudden they're just done and they quit biting or they move and you're trying to shoots putting, putting a thousand dollars of your own money on a line in a week out there fishing and then tell me about it. Yeah, it's kind of trip. And you've already paid the guy defined the fish, he put you on the fish, and you're complaining about reeling them in. I mean, seriously, don't go it's eddy well. I think half half the battles with Walleyes is figuring them out right, And they made they made great table fair and I like figuring it out and I can just tell you, like producer didn't leave them back man. This We did a shoot in I want to say June and the June early July. Where do you remember this, Producer, where we were like, I mean, they weren't giant fish. They weren't small fish, but I mean it was like it took me forever to get them in because they were fighting hard. Different circumstances and different ways that you fish. So I guess I'll close my answer on this. If you're fishing jets and spoons and crank baits at mock ten, maybe try fishing spinners or fishing slow when you don't have that boat to basically kill them and drag them. And you fish slow in country you like to do or cast the old new whole new deal. Go cast for them, Go cast got go open water cast for them, and tell me how much fun that is. Boom if you can figure that out. Snarky state, I'd like I like to see people do it. I know when when it's kind of a touchy thing because when people go, oh, lake easy, and I'm like, well, you know what, you don't go out when you got a front, You don't go out when the water is muddy. You only pick easy. How easy it is? Yeah, okay, so kind of along with reeling in fish, um Aidan and Gatto wants to know,...

I just country Steve lose so many fish. You know what, here, here's the deal. When I listened to some of these questions, I go, do you guys ever even watch any of our stuff? Because he does, he clearly watches, so like, I want to give this guy, I mean some loves somehow, because yeah, half the times you're like, hey, do you have a videos on DIPSI divers, Like, yeah, we got like six of them. Watch them. But why Country Steve loses so many fish? It just happens. It's like comes up. I mean, I've only been mad two times. Oh yeah, And they were both at paved Quinny. No, no, no one was when And don't producer, you don't say where we were at what we were doing a spring shoot and we were I was like, because they were giants, I mean they were all tens and I don't know he was, so yeah, we were not on the same page that day. But I don't get bad. That was preventable. That day was preventable on Baya Quinny when we had multiple fishing the teams that came off, just what we were doing in order to get bites was extremely difficult to land the fish. And that's all I'll say it was. It was disheartening when you watch two fish come off that are in the teens, and you know they are because you watch you You land one that's like thirteen six scaled, and you see this thing swimming like a bluga whale down and you're like, I don't care if I catch another fifty wall eyes. I still will remember that day, right, I mean so many. I have no idea. I've lost one big fish in the tournament that legitimately took me from would have been in first the third and I snapped her out over my knee. That was no, no, no, that was It was several years ago. No, no, we're not talking about the spring when I had to net boys. That didn't that that is what it is. But in the river, well, this was this was that was disheartening. And I broke one of the seven ten Gen Louis brown rods over my knee. Oh those are you can't get them anymore. No, but it was. It was a long time ago. Be paying smoke. Doesn't that sounds like a rapper? I think I'm taking the teeth. Yeah, be paying smoke. Yeah. I didn't invent invent like auto tune or something. Um, he wants to know what kind of not you use for cranks, And we'll start there. He's got a second question, but we'll start there. They're not for cranks. I mean it's the same one I would tie for spinners. I just tie a polemn or not to my snap. It's fast, easy hold. I use two knots and it doesn't matter if it's cranky or whatever. If I'm using monofilment, I generally use a unionnot and if I'm using floral, without a doubt. You need to learn how to use the San Diego jam not because it won't burn your line. You'll thank me later. That could be b paying smokes. Next single san Diego? What was that San Diego Jam? Not? San Diego Jam? Not? Do you guys know? I went to Vinyl Ice and Tone. Look at Putting Bay last week. I saw a picture, Yeah, it was on fire. Um what else here? Um oh. His second part of the question was what's the fastest speed you would ever troll with spinners? It depends on what you're doing, right. What's your answer, Country, I would go one eight. I mean I've caught them going three. But you just have to understand that your delivery method, your blade and everything has to change. Your hook types, you know, for for efficiency. Once you start speeding up with spinners, it's a whole different ball game. Yeah, well here if here over way east over by the pen line, then yeah, you'reoull be using double willows home one eight for you know dip c's.

But yeah, I would say you would bump it up. I don't because I don't go over there. Fish dipsys that often. It pains me to go over one eight. My boat doesn't even know how. But the last few years it's it's done in more than I care to share. All right, h next question and this we get this one a lot ross um. Jason Cobbs wants to know about your Mercury outboard cover and if you ever have any issues with overheating. No, that's it's a lot of people confuse and they think like his Ranger boats used to make a I think they still do. Actually, you guys just generally don't use them. They had a cover that used to be actually part of your boat cover, and then they had them where they buckle on. It's not that that cover is made specifically for that to be left on um while traveling while fishing. Mercury actually sells those. You can get them right at mercury marine dot com. Um, yeah, no overheating, actually the opposite, A right, a corrain, no skador. How about that pronunciation. I think I got it right too. I don't know if you did or you did, but that was a mouthful. I would have slipped an anal in there. I would have said it. Oh. Um, wants to know if you guys ever troll with plastic worms. Yes, and the Detroit River. I started doing it this year. Actually went down to a slow death book and put a plastic worm on and it actually a couple of days out fished regular worms, but the rest of the time regular worms will kicked his task. I would concur I think that when you have a short piece like a quartercrawler, third of a crawler or whatever it is, on a slow death or something like that that seems to work well on a regular rig, replacement have not done very good and certainly not any consistency whatsoever. I'm intragued with the new one coming out. I'm right there with you. I'm intrigued, That's all I said. I'm not gonna tellways. I'm a pretty open book, but I'm pretty sure I know why the crawler works, like scientifically wise, and I think that I'll tell you later, but I don't think that. Uh, I'm not gonna tell that everybody everything You're always full of, see you see, I like Steve. Steve's an open book. You're always very secretive with all this stuff. In a slow alex clid, you know we're gonna replace you with Drew Cherry A what do you got? I'll see um. Michael McCoy says he loves your content, Captain Ross, and how you are with Country Steve. It's very obviously that you two are close friends. Just curious where did the name Country Steve come from? How did we love our content? If he doesn't know what country? That's exactly what was my thought too. It's okay, and he might have just started following. Okay, so here, I'm not we're not. We're not answering that spring April mayish video. Yeah, probably in April video, I would imagine, as we shot it in March. All I'm gonna say is is it's not because he's a farmer and he probably don't want your eight year old standing next to you. Wasn't it not? It's not gruesome, but it's belly. Wasn't a part of that was, he was it was just the three of us. Yes, it was, now I remember, yeah it was. It was a flat, flat yeah, where you could hear you could hear boats, people talking on boats from half a mile away. Yeah, alright, so Michael, go find that video. I think the title has something to do with Instagram models. Uh is in the title? I mean we can maybe go as far as giveing a one time link on their something. But check it out, all...

...right? Uh? Nitron wants to know. And if you ever jig fish for while I on erie, it looks so boring to reel in a walleye while the boat is in gear with a planer board attached. Do you know what's more boring looking at an empty cooler or no fish pictures or or try figure in the mount the science of it, It's not as easy as people think. In all seriousness, I get people a lot, and I have a people that end up not booking with our did service because they're like, no, we want to come to jig. There's a very small window of jig fishing. And then also not just when those fish are staged in that area, but also the water clarity has to be right. So if we have north or northeast winds and it dirties that up, it makes that bite very difficult. And you know, you just can't force those fish into, you know, making them eat what you want. The reality is our fish move a lot, like right now with one of the bites that's going on on Erie. These fish are moving about two to five miles a day from the morning to the early afternoon like this real big school. And you can't stand that when you're gig fishing. You just can't. So it's an efficiency thing. It's like you want to know, clean an aircraft, carry your deck with a toothbrush where you want to use you know, giant power washers. And so if you try to tell them fish, how do you gotta how do you get want to catch them? Because it's more fun for you, you probably need a different, different system. So the National Wallete Tour is here over in dun Kirk, and the leader is a giant cast. But I guarantee you with him in his thirty nine pounds today he did not catch them casting because I know casters and they're trawling. So it is not as easy as what you think it is. And I've been in Ross and I both have been playing with the casting the last couple of years, and it's it's not easy. We're actually another shameless plugged and put the link up for this producer. Dude, we did a casting in the Detroit River episode the Country Sea breaking tactics here on us. Everybody's vertical jigging and trying to stay one step ahead of the curve, using Mega Live, using three sixty and all these different tools to you know, to try to help make that what I just said easier. But when fisher are suspended and they're moving two to five miles in a six hour period, dude, you it's just not that easy. Our fish here roam so much and they move so much. And I've tried casting at St. Clair for three weeks now and I can do it, but I can't do it consistently. And I had a buddy that was here. We went and did it, and he is a phenomenal caster, and he said, man, these fish moved so much because we're fishing in Lake St. Clair and it's a fish bowl and they're on the move, and I just cannot get it down and it is frustrating the crap on me. But I'm having fun learning how to do it. And I've learned so much using my megalive and my side imaging down and down imaging in three sixty and it's just crazy. It's just a whole different world out there with the technology now that it's just changing the game. Just like your buddy Gallagher follows you, you find the fish, he pulls up and actually that's that's a will end on this one. Yeah, I have a good buddy who is really good at the casting game. He's kind of in the of the opinion maybe this guy is, but um, he goes out there, my buddy, and he doesn't catch fish for two or three hours, and they'll call me and say, hey, where you are, And he'll set up ten ft behind me is I'm going through, and he'll catch twenty fish boom boo boom, and it's like, yeah, that's great, but he can't find him. Then when those moving, it's over with your you're up, you're up a creek. And even using the Mega Live and all that stuff, it's still it's it's like trying to catch somebody in a car when you're on a tricycle and it's just you can't. If you can those fish and stay at him. Yeah, do it. It's it's more efficient to sit and work. And my perch style, it's a structure. It's a lot of structure thing, and and he already had some structure. But these...

...fish are on the prowl looking for food in the bait. Fish don't go, oh, here's a rock, We're gonna stay by the rock. No, they're you know, following the blank in the small stuff. They're following their food chain, and they're following the warmer water. So it's it's not that easy. It's a lot to it, all right. And Steve d I think at the beginning you said you had a question about Lake St. Clair and my no, no, it's not a question. It's just h Ross is always telling me, you know, to put a swivel on above. And I'm doing it because I have went through three hundred four feet of line in the last two days. Because we'll get a six inch perch. And all he's doing is helicopter, helicopter, helicopter, and you don't even know what's on there. And then when I get it in, it's just like a pube off your butt hole. Yeah, want to stop, man, Yeah, I know. The other thing that that swivel does is it's really nice for catching some weeds to occasionally. Oh yeah, I put a bean in yeah, beat above the swivel. So I went four ft Now that's what I was coming earlier for. So I went four ft above, put it and put a good swivel on a cheap you know, eagle cloth swivel. Uh, put a good swivel, put a bead, and then I put four ft up twenty pound uh plural carbon instead of using the ten pound because I'm just tired of these little pub blinds just driving me nuts. Well, and ten pound four carbon is gonna break way before ten pound model. So if you've got ten pound model on, you're on your main deal, you're gonna be breaking more. And then in theory, your leader is going to get a few more nicks and things on it, so it would break way way easier. All right, last question for this session. We're already I've already reached the last question for this session. So it was very It was very painless, wasn't it. I feel I feel like it's always fun. Yeah, your face doesn't show that you feel like it's fun. We're doing yet, Um, why don't you use release clips on the side of your boards. You loop your line in the clip, and when a fish bites, pull quickly and release the line. The board is disengaged and hanging off rear pin clip. Uh, you make it so much harder not releasing the boards. Well, obviously another person that doesn't watch our stuff. But here's the deal. When you when you when you make a blind comment like that, And that's why we try to over explain because when people ask generalized questions, if you go and do that method and you are fishing like I am as a guide, or if you do it in your fishing one mile an hour with spinners, I'm gonna laugh at you. It works for certain things, but when you set up your boards. You know, I carry three sets of boards in my boat. I don't expect most people to have the space or to spend that kind of money on doing that. But all those are set up just like in the same way you wouldn't use a perch rod for walleye jigging or for red fishing. So you need to adjust those things. Acquardling. So if you're power trolling a certain type of crank bait or doing a certain thing that works fine, but when you're going slow, that fish will not pull out of the spread. And also I don't want to start jerking a rod because I don't know how many fish me and Country I've had where we barely get him and hooked. I've watched it for certain things that works great, but when people start making blind comments like that, it shows me I haven't done a lot of different things. I would love to see it, you know, having four boards per side and then the time the third board, the third board have them pulled it out, and then watching going and Jerry Jake up to all the rest of his lines because brilliant, and it's kind of like producer dude, if if the guys are kind of wondering what we're talking about here. The Dipsy video that we did about a year ago today, so it probably came out a few days after one year ago where we were just me and you when we had five...

Dipsie divers down and we gotta fish on every one of them. And if I wouldn't have had those releases tight on the Dipsi divers because we had, it happened where one popped because it was just hammering. They basically all go back and basket weave themselves together, and if you're not going fast then it's a whole other disaster thing. But yes, to keep it, keep your stuff in line so you're able to clear other boards, because if you're fighting two fish on the other side and then that pops off on the other side, and then that third board comes in and it's gonna just mangle with the board on the inside. That's why you don't want to do that. Different strokes, different folks. Alright, it worked in certain situations, but if you're using that for everything, you're gonna be had some crubbolls. Boy. Alright, Any anything else you guys want to say to each other before we go bye? Is it your honor? Is my time done with MMR? Country? Am I out of it? Oh? My god? You know what? It was fun though't Because I'll be honest with you. We get some people producer, you'd back me on this, and people that I know that are pretty fun and we've had to work Country into this a little bit. They get on the podcast and guys that are just blah blah blaha chattering before we started afterwards, and when we get them on here, they're just like, uh and Country used to be like, if you watch the Country Steve podcast, we had to work him into that. Now it's not as easy as you think it is, and it's not as fun. It's work. Did he get what? Did he did? He? Right? Wow? WHOA? I'm in your opinion, that's all I have no either way. I'm asking you. When we started talking about a pimple on a butt with a some kind of pubic hairs, I was like, Country's back, shade is back. Yeah, we got it. Yeah, I just I'm just tired of the helicopter fish. But here, but here's the deal. You guys can't like like, oh you can't handle remember what was Jack Nicholas? You can't handle the truth? Like the Country Steve goes past level five, you're all gonna cry, So be careful what you wish for. Some of you will. Yeah. No, I enjoyed it. I just think in all seriousness, like I don't want to discourage people from asking questions, but producer, dude, am I wrong? And some of the assumptions here were It's like some of the questions are like accusatory, and then other ones are just so blanket that I can't even adequately answer it even if I wanted to, and it's like a double. A lot of the questions were, good, Um, catching a walleye that you know is catching the sock. I don't know. That's kind of odd. I mean, yeah, they don't fight, they don't jump out of the water, but they put up a good tug and I don't catch him for the fight. It's trying to catch them consistently and trying to get the bigger ones, you know, Um, table fair. You know, it's not that hard for us to go do a lot of people can't do it. I'm on the Detroit River. I'll come in with a basket of fish and be the only guy out of ten boats has all this fish, you know, consistently and people, what are you doing? How are you doing it? And I'll sit there and explain to him. I'll tell him what to do. I'll tell what depends on the day that it's not tell them. I could see you being very open. Are you just ripping somebody up? Yeah? Well, it depends how how the approach goes and where we're at right if they come off. We've been on that before and I've been told to be nice on more than one occasion Inside jokes, Boat, inside joke to everybody, Leshan leish Off...

...exactly. Um, well, I think we're gonna do We're gonna do these again, aren't we producer? Dude? But I mean, do you like being slow as we have? Yes, we have more questions. We're gonna do a part two with country. Yes, Part two, look for it.

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